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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 15, 2009 7:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

Nope, but it has been getting a lot of air time (ads and such) over here, and all are talking about the music as the best part...

Perhaps Rob, snori or Miss D can splain to us stateside what the deal was...is the premise that "good ol R&R songs" were only available via this outlet/station? If it was truly "banned" songs, what the heck were they? Didn't you all have typical stations like we did or did BBC and others completely control the air waves?

I plead pathetic ignorance of this possibly very significant radio historical issue...

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Nov 15, 2009 8:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

You needed a 'wireless' licence in the early 60's and any broadcast that originated from outside the UK was classed as an unauthorised signal, so Radio Luxembourg for example was deemed to be a pirate station.

The radio ships like Caroline and London, anchored outside UK territorial waters, were also unauthorised and probably are where the word pirate comes from.

This post was modified by Miss Divine on 2009-11-15 16:02:09

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 15, 2009 8:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

Boy, that was fast! Thanks sweetie--and you two, dez...interesting; I had no idea such was the case. Do you think it was just "market control/straight-up economics" issues, or something more social/politcal in the sense of keeping you naive innocents in the dark and such? Of course, given that you all were producing the bad boy Stones, PinkFloyd and the like, hard to say that our hip gyrations were anything to be all that worried about...

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Nov 15, 2009 8:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

If my memory serves we well, there is a scene in "The Last Picture Show" were Hank Williams is on the car radio. I think the period was Korea? In the States in the fifties most of your cars had radios, plus I believe under Eisenhower a lot of new highways were built. Here not many people drove or could afford cars. We did'nt get our first major highway until 1963, about the time the Beatles broke thru and began to turn on the world. The bowlerhatted brigade controlled most things. Still do. So back then most people had to tune into Radio Luxembourg late at night to hear some good tunes. Hence the arrival of Caroline, whose Dj's included the very fine John Peel.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 15, 2009 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

Ah, very insightful historical summation...that is probably the primary explanation (ie, "developmental/evolutionary" in a sense).

Thanks dez! (somehow your handle, in my mind, is pronounced "dez" [like desi arnez or some such] when I see it)

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Nov 15, 2009 8:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

I do recall "I Love Lucy".

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 15, 2009 9:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

"Ricky!" (yell)

"RICKY!?" (frightened scream)

"Rrrriiicckkeeeee!" (whine)

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Nov 15, 2009 9:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

I used to watch Highway Patrol too, tho not whittling with my knife. Really tho in the fifties/early sixties the BBC had a channel called the Light Programme, which usually played stuff like Rodgers and Hammerstein, Doris Day. Elvis singing Wooden Heart was often on. Hardly footstomping stuff.

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Poster: snori Date: Nov 15, 2009 12:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

Miss D. is right - on old boats and offshore forts three or more miles from land young entrepreneurs or music fans set up radio stations for an enthusiatic young audience. They were the alternative to the BBC's Light Programme which was almost entirely Dance Orchestra and crooners doing awful cover versions. The pirate radio stations took their influence from American pop stations, and even had some American DJs like Emperor Rosko. They played a lot soul and motown at first but the boom in British pop gave them their own voice, and John Peel's late night show 'The Perfumed Garden' was the introduction for may of us to psychedelic music (He even played Donovan.)

The british Government declared them illegal over performing rights revenue I think in '68, and all but one - Radio Caroline - closed. They hung on for a few years with some hairy adventures, and I believe they are now an internet station.

They gave us a lot of good music and fun while they were going, something their replacement, the BBC's Radio 1 could never match. BTW If any of them had Dead albums then it would have been Peel.

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Nov 15, 2009 8:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

I don't listen to the radio, so am unaware of this Pirate Radio. However back in the early 60's I used to tune into Radio Caroline, a broadcasting ship with similar shows that you might of had in the US. At the time BBC dominated the air waves badly. Used to listen on my transistor radio.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Nov 15, 2009 10:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

That's what the movie is about, Deyz. An offshore pirate radio station in 60's England. They just don't use real names like 'Caroline' (the most famous one). The Who Sell Out is an album designed to sound like Pirate Radio.

This movie is set in '66, but apparently, both 'Won't Get Fooled Again' (1971) and 'Jumping Jack Flash' (1968), are in the soundtrack. Someone's confused, obviously...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 15, 2009 10:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

Don't you hate it when they do that?

Not relevant, and even though some don't care for the flick, I always thought the Violent Femmes "Blister on the Sun" tune was great in Grospoint Blank.

"Workers of the World unite!"

Good soundtracks can really make a movie.

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Poster: cush212 Date: Nov 15, 2009 1:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

Ruining a good Humperdink concert... Sacrilege!!!

:)

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Nov 15, 2009 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

I agree. Would Pulp Fiction been as good without 'Miserlou' or You Never Can Tell?'.... no.

And deyz, I didn't mean you were confused, I meant the movie-makers were. They seem to think any music will do for '66. They should have slapped on 'Casey Jones' as well... durrrr

This post was modified by Styrofoam Cueball on 2009-11-15 19:05:54

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 15, 2009 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

For Pirate Radio, what could be better than the theme song for Sponge Bob?

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Nov 15, 2009 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

Maybe stuck with the Pirates here. We actually have a pirate flag in the living room. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSIjlUMV6Is

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Poster: deyzof49 Date: Nov 15, 2009 10:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pirate Radio: calling all brits!

I realise now that you're on about a movie. Still one of my lasting memories is watching the Who perform "My Generation" on tv in maybe '65. One of my friends was confused back then when he went to watch a package tour concert featuring Englebert Humperdink and Jimi Hendrix on the same bill!